Far More Damaging" Biden-Ukraine Tapes Disclosed

Far More Damaging” Biden-Ukraine Tapes Disclosed

July 1, 2020   |   by James G. Dalton

The Washington Post is trying to get ahead of what Rudy Giuliani says are “far more damaging” tapes of 2016 phone calls between former Vice President Joe Biden and former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, which are set for release over the summer by a former Ukrainian diplomat.

To review, Biden conditioned a $1 billion US loan guarantee on the firing of Ukraine’s chief prosecutor, who was leading a wide-ranging investigation into Burisma – a Ukrainian energy company which hired Hunter Biden to sit on its board.

In May, Ukrainian MP Andrii Derkach released recordings of Biden and Poroshenko which explicitly detail the quid-pro-quo arrangement to fire the prosecutor, Victor Shokin (which Biden already admitted to).

Biden’s campaign says the tapes are part of a ‘conspiracy theory to smear him’ – while Poroshenko claims they are fabricated.

In one of the May tapes, Poroshenko reports back with “positive news” that Shokin – “despite of the fact that we didn’t have any corruption charges” – had been fired.

Last week, more recordings of Biden and Poroshenko were published to the YouTube channel, NABU Leaks,” where the two can be heard discussing ongoing efforts by the United States to help Ukraine with various matters.

And according to a Tuesday report in the Washington Post, more tapes are coming.

Both Giuliani and Lev Parnas, a Ukrainian-American businessman who served as his fixer in Ukraine, confirmed that they sought tapes of Biden last year. Giuliani said he received assistance in his pursuit from a source within the State Department, who he claimed pointed him to the dates of certain conversations between Biden and Poroshenko by accessing an official U.S. government archive.

Giuliani told The Washington Post that he did not know the recently released recordings were coming before they were posted online last month. But in a recent interview with OAN, the former New York mayor claimed to be aware of other tapes that were “far more damaging,” saying, “I would hope that those tapes are put out also.” –Washington Post

The Post calls the clips “heavily edited” and paints Derkach, the Ukrainian MP, as essentially a proxy for Vladimir Putin. They also suggest that “the efforts to promote the recordings in Ukraine and the United States — and pledges by other Trump allies to release more in the coming months — suggest a new push by foreign forces to sway American voters in the run-up to the 2020 election,” and claim that the NABU leaks “further illustrate Trump’s willingness to benefit from foreign intervention in U.S. elections,” despite offering no evidence that Trump is involved in the leaks.

Well-worn playbooks aside, the Biden campaign had this to say of the audio clips:

“All the president’s men, both within our country and outside of it, have been constantly trafficking in objectively false, malicious conspiracy theories targeting Joe Biden since before he even entered the race. And their efforts have invariably fallen apart — because the American people know Joe Biden, his character, and his values.”

Derkach, meanwhile, said of the attempts to smear him as a Russian operative “There is not a single confirmed or reliable fact of my illegal activity or wrongful connections.”

More damage control by WaPo:

The hunt by the president’s allies for the Biden tapes and their subsequent release have echoes of the 2016 campaign, when Trump publicly asked Russia to find emails of his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton. Trump later said the comment was a joke, even as GOP operatives mounted a serious but unsuccessful operation to obtain her emails from hackers claiming to have them.

Democratic emails stolen by Russian intelligence officers were ultimately released through WikiLeaks, as special counsel Robert S. Mueller III detailed in his report. The sequence of events sparked a nearly two-year investigation, multiple congressional inquiries and federal charges against 12 Russian military intelligence officers. –Washington Post

 And here it is:

U.S. intelligence officials have warned that Russia could reprise its efforts to influence the race for the White House again this year.

And they keep going with the Russia angle, to the surprise of nobody:

Michael Carpenter, a Biden foreign policy adviser and former senior Defense Department official, called the tape snippets that Derkach is releasing “a KGB-style disinformation operation tied to pro-Russian forces in Ukraine whose chief aim is to make deceptive noise in the U.S. election campaign to advance the interests of their oligarchic backers, the Kremlin, and the faltering Trump campaign.”

The report also names non Russians (who might be secret Russians) who could be behind the tapes, including former Ukrainian Diplomat Andrii Telizhenko, and Ukrainian gas tycoon and former lawmaker Oleksandr Onyshchenko.

According to Telizhenko This summer there will be more release of conversations, with full transcripts,” addingI’m going to release everything all together when the time is right.”

Can we say “deadman’s switch?”

via zerohedge

Recent Comments

  1. Mike W

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    July 1, 2020 @ 2:21 pm

    IF they have this information why do they have to wait to release it? National Security? My ass – how long does it take to listen to a tape and determine what needs to be redacted for security reasons?

    • ezra

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      July 1, 2020 @ 8:55 pm

      In politics, like all comedy, ‘timing is everything!’ The release of the tapes will follow the established pattern of doing the greatest damage at the most critical moment. After all it makes more sense to release evidence of corruption right after Biden falls on his face in a debate or forgets what state he’s in or which office he’s running for… why not distract from his announcement of a marginal V.P. choice with a dose of Biden corruption? in fact it would be the appropriate time to recycle the whole corruption and power abuse of his brother who was raising money using the then V.P. Biden name for his illicit real estate miasma. The very name ‘Biden’ should cause Democrats to cringe and flee from the voting booth! Whether it is preceded b Hunter, Joe or any other name! The entire family is currently defending themselves against potential felony charges in ongoing investigations. If you think that th Democrats went after Trump for four solid years? The Biden family will be the target of unmerciful corruption charges, investigations, congressional inquiries and senate hearings…it will not end!
      The Democratic Party has set themselves as the target of every decent person as the party to most spectacularly fail and plummet to the earth in flames of scandal and corruption. The entire Democratic Party is simply trying to keep Dementia Boy Joe Biden out of prison until election time!

    • Ann POik

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      July 2, 2020 @ 6:27 am

      If the democrats manage to rig votes for Biden to become president, then the Republicans MUST impeach him for this corrupt impeachable act

  2. Frank Julius Papp

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    July 1, 2020 @ 2:33 pm

    Joe Biden conspire to do wrong as a sitting vice president at the time he needs to be chastised and or charged with crimes against the people of the United States He is very shameful I’ve listened to the tapes and what a crock of shit he is and now his mental capacity has dissipated .

  3. max

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    July 1, 2020 @ 2:37 pm

    Hiden Biden smeared himself on the Ukraine debacle!! he black mailed the foreign official to help divert the investigation into the corruption of the company Biden’s son was employed by. Biden done it and then bragged about it on national TV!! he is an idiot and was knee deep in corruption of the Obozo/Biden administration. he has constantly denied a lot of things about the debacle that everyone knows he is not being honest with people. actually, he has lied about things to keep his son from getting caught up in the corruption but that time has past long ago. he and his son has constantly portrayed corruption which runs deep in the Biden’s. Biden has no business being even close to the oval office. with his constant gaffs and condescending remarks to the public, his cognitive problems are very evident. i can’t believe that the demoRats have let him get this far but evidently they are going to use him as a hand puppet for everything or convince him resign if he happens to win and take the second in line.

  4. Patsy

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    July 1, 2020 @ 3:01 pm

    “Absolute crooks”!! Obama and the democrats,
    “all” did crooked things before,
    they’ll do MORE if Joe’s elected~!!
    SAVE AMERICA & VOTE FOR TRUMP!!

  5. Stan the Man

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    July 1, 2020 @ 3:58 pm

    Man … will this Ukraine/Russian election interference fiasco never end? The country has had enough of this constant back and forth and fake media news and Ukrainian thug friends of Giuliani visiting our great pres for dinner dates … give the pres a break, too – he needs it. He is going down the hopper faster than my morning dump!!!!!

    • Robert Waddell

      Reply
      July 1, 2020 @ 4:29 pm

      You smell like a dump has been taken, a big nasty Democrat turd!

  6. Robert Waddell

    Reply
    July 1, 2020 @ 4:27 pm

    The News Paper sure is fond of Biden! News agencies are supposed to inform the public, not try to sway the public? Isn’t there some code of ethics violations for news agencies? The Bilderberg’s send their marching orders and the News Agencies step to attention!

  7. Robert Waddell

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    July 1, 2020 @ 4:35 pm

    Joe Biden is a criminal and so is his spoiled brat adult son! I bet the Democrats have Hunter Biden on lockdown so he can’t screw up during his daddy’s campaign! The entire DNC is a criminal organization anyway! A non elected leader, an ex-POTUS who was fraudulently elected, Constitutionally ineligible, the DNC just ignored that! In 2016 the DNC rigged their own party’s Presidential Nomination Election so HRC could run against Trump, they cheated and still lost! LOL

  8. Robert Waddell

    Reply
    July 1, 2020 @ 4:42 pm

    You want America back? Would you like to have better race relations, better Cops, good cops that don’t harass innocent black people? Would you like black lives to truly matter?
    I would!! If you jail the entire DNC for treason, Soros and sons, Obama and his administration, Ayers and Dorn. Holder and Rice, Lynch, HRC, Kerry, Jarrett, Comey, McCabe, Baker, Biden, Clapper, Brennan, Strozk, Page, the Ohers, Michelle, Bill Clinton, and more!
    Then we could have a great America, without division, and hate!

  9. Robert Waddell

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    July 1, 2020 @ 4:44 pm

    Chicago, Illinois is a machine pumping out Communist robots! Fix the problems and enjoy your lives!

  10. jose Salazar

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    July 1, 2020 @ 6:44 pm

    It does not matter who says what or who chose to keep quiet , ALL POLITICIANS are crooks ready to make dishonest gains , no matter who they bend over a barrel or who the ruin, and if they are not crooks, some politician will show them the ropes into becoming a wealthy crook.

  11. Gene

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    July 9, 2020 @ 9:27 pm

    Well whats good is we have someone in there that is not a coork they have done everything but could not find shit if we did the same to them the jails would be over flowing crooks dems an there hole familys this shit has veen going on till trump came in an didnt play there game he showed us how bad it was barr is ho they fear because he has the dirt an its comeing thats way tgey are fight so hard they couldnt clean there shit up they though hillary would win lol that way its so inportant we put trump back in this will end the DNC they will all be in jail the time is here fior us to take back our gov we are the gov we dont need aby dem tilling us what to do we are free not no slave like ever where eles the majorty is say by by dems the bigest vote power ever the frea of tge dems they have no control at all an never will by by dems

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